This on-demand webinar, featuring Mickey Alon of Vidmob, dives into AI's impact across industries, highlighting its role in product development and digital experiences.*
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For example, is what we've done is since we have those very advanced analytics,
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and insights,
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eventually if you're providing any type of repost to your customers, they will
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ask you
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why the insights and how they can monetize and understand from your services
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what is
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extra bull insight.
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So we saw that we did some experiments we connected our data insights which is
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usually
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analytics is more complex to kind of explain in most or in deep reporting.
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And when we feed it to JAD GPT, actually translate to human readable insights
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and kind of tells
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you what's the insight and what you should be doing.
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So that's really interesting how you can create this personal is the
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personalized experience
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to translate those insight to your end user based on what they see in the
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screen right
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now.
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You can actually hit JAD GPT and imagine how personalized suddenly your system
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is becoming.
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Right, so it's like one idea to create increased personalization to just
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explain your functionality
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but the insight the outcome that they see.
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So that was a recent experiment we've done which is pretty awesome to see like
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hey,
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just help me understand this complex report.
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What should I learn?
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What should I do?
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And JAD GPT was pretty awesome on kind of really building that human real
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insight.
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What we want to do as a company as well is become that data source to these
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platforms.
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So if you're going to go and build a video or creative someone in Adobe tool,
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we see
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a future where we're going to feed the generative AI with here's the elements
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that we're seeing
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as high performance elements for this specific brand for this industry.
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So at least it will offer you millions of options but that I'm already kind of
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optimized
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to what you're trying to achieve.
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Additional use cases, as Katie mentioned again is how do you improve user
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experience,
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chatbot, virtual assistants, there's a lot of things either you are a provider
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or you
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want to use but I think can you definitely improve user experience and also
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touch its
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personalization.
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Automation of task, right, there's like a lot of like tools today like that
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even developers
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now use they can actually as they type code pilot and those services are
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amazing.
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So actually that it kind of guesses very rightly how what the function they
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need to code is
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actually knows the context of the code and complimented it's amazing to see it.
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So either again, if you are a vendor of this and building functionality
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definitely when
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you anything at this rule based, you can start thinking about how do we make it
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smarter.
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If it's in supply chain, for example, how do you make the routing go beyond
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rule based.
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If you're doing scoring, how do you go beyond rule based.
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There's a lot of potential here and those systems are surprisingly more mature
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that
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we've seen before.
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And there's also forecasting and risk mitigation.
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Can we can we can the system actually start to detect and predict events more
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likely to
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occur and prevent that.
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So obviously customer success, can we can we see something is trending to
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negative areas
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obviously it's in science in B2B there's a lot of data points and it's very
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hard for
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humans to be on top of things.
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But if think about it, can we have an assistant saying, hey, look, this account
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of this user
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actually is struggling.
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They can even close the loop but also let us give us the signals of, hey, here
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's what
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I would do to address those element if the system cannot take, you know, if it
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's your
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UX, for example, you should expect the services to say here's an area that we
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think that your
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users are finding very complex.
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And if you in the user feedback area and pick and really help you get the
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context.
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So those are areas that we're seeing more and more as mature services, you can
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start
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integrating into your platform and really build features around them.
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So those questions, you have a secret recipe to translating insight into consum
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able prompt.
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We did, it wasn't that secretly basically the iron elitics is there's a lot of
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permutations
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a lot of KPIs a lot of cohorts, which humans can't like really compare, you
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know, so many
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dimensions.
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So we did build like API that basically shows all the possibilities and then
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kind of telling
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the, the chat GPT, this is kind of the primary API and this is the other KPIs
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and it did
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pretty good job in terms of like telling a story.
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You need to explain to it what each means, but it was pretty successful.
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It wasn't a high effort and now when we have an insight panel, we actually
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click on usually
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in the past, you can just take your notes and potentially save that insight as
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a user.
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But now you can say chat GPT and it will actually, it will figure out the data
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because we send
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the KPIs into chat GPT and it will actually write it for you and all you need
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to do is
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just save it.
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I see another question.
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Cool.
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So, so I am another question for you.
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So it's so interesting to hear about the insights that you're getting from your
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product
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at VIT MOG, that the insight about viewer engagement with the video around that
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three
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second mark is like, so what a good example in my mind of one of those metrics
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that the
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only the product can tell you, that you're never going to get that from like a
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user interview
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or anything like that.
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And it's one of the key inputs to a product let grow strategy.
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Since you literally wrote a book on product let grow, I'm curious, how is PLG
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changing
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in your mind in 2023 or is it the exact same?
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Awesome.
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Yeah.
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And I think that we see that there's obviously market volatility as well and
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some would say
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hey PLG, there's tech consolidation and enterprise and more stable versus PLG
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companies.
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I feel that PLG is obviously and I'm biased but here to stay because the low
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friction and
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I think even the expectation from user right now is just increasingly growing
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to have like
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smarter products and easy to use and so we're removing friction all the time.
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So I think PLG is definitely here to stay.
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It's mostly about how holistically you think of PLG and not it's not about just
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freemium
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or free trial or those but how do you now create a something that will support
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a stronger
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global market.
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So I think we can jump into what Vidmo is doing and how to think about PLG.
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So as the barrier to entry drops, we believe that public experience is becoming
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the differentiator.
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There's going to be so many players out there, right?
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And they're going to compete with you and there's going to be new players
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because imagine
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again, productivity is going to be very, very high and it's just like narrowing
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the time
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to deliver a full-blown product is actually getting accelerated.
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So the next area to optimize is the product experience, is the customer
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acquisition, is
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the adoption playbook.
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So do you still want to toss them into like a non-personized product?
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Or do you think about how do I think about the customer journey?
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How do I help them adopt my product?
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Understand what it does very quickly if you're still not offering free trial
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and your competition
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is only out of nowhere offering free trial or if you're still having very heavy
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or long
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sales process, maybe our competition is going to figure out new ways to make it
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easier and
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lower friction and we're seeing companies do that and it's a massive investment
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product
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but this is something we definitely see as coming in.
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And what we did more obviously now are transitioning towards more PLG motion
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and just to give you
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a recap of what do we mean by that is like how do you define your unique
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features, experience
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and benefits to help your product kind of stand out from the competition.
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It's very foundational but it is leading with your product.
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What features are going to be the unique ones and how do you think about
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experiences part
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of your roadmap as well?
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So if I look at our initiative for this year and next year is to create a lower
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friction
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customer acquisition and as I mentioned like we want to do potentially today we
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have one
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big platform and you can do a lot of things with it and we want to break it to
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different
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services and products so we can actually create a lower friction customer
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acquisition that
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you can allow you to deliver the initial value, you can get you understand how
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it works and
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then we can make sure you and educate you that you need the performance side
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and you
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need other additional modules to truly get to true value and for us to get to
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stickiness.
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So in your market you should think about which competitors you have that can
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just do
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the basic stuff they might disrupt you which is very easy to start with them.
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You should definitely think about how can you create a subset of your product
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and right
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now we have a full product, it's a full platform and we are now deciding to
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kind of cut that
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to three different products and just to support that PLG motion because there's
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always going
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to be something to become a commodity and it's easy to start with and it's very
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hard
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to convince every customer that they need to think about a big picture and you
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need
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to think about it next year and so it's just like better for that lower
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friction.
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We didn't...
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Sorry to interrupt but that really resonates a lot of our clients are thinking
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about PLG
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past the initial acquisition period with a customer and onto the to your point
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inside
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the cross-sell and the expansion as well and just keeping people on that
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journey so definitely
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feels really relevant across the board this year.
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Yeah and I think also from your as product leadership you guys should think
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about the
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pricing and packaging and other elements like how do we think about that
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because again
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in the middle right now we're selling the full platform we don't really price
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different
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functionality so there's a lot of you know you're buying functionality, you're
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buying
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value, you're buying ability to drive out coming in all right can you start
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pricing that
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properly.
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We did decide to focus on enterprises because this is where the biggest pain it
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's a pain
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killer there it's not a vitamin so it's also good to say hey which market do we
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go after
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and PLG is very relevant for enterprise because they also have like a specific
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pain point
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and priority in year one and they grow to kind of more mature more advanced use
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cases
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in year two so it's exactly how you increase functionality and you sell it to
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them when
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they need it as opposed to try again to push a full platform to them and then
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create a
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lot of pressure on on-boarding a lot of pressure in implementation there's a
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lot of things
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that your product if you're not changing the way you're building selling and
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getting the
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to market you create a lot of pressure which is less and less natural and it's
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something
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to definitely to think about so when you shifting towards a more composition or
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composed application
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pricing and package should also be something you align with your go-to market
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team it's
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again big changes and you need to have cross functional teams involved but it's
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something
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that we're doing at VibMob and the first thing we're going to do is we
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establish a creative
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effectiveness platform and we are slicing the existing functionality to three
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products
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and obviously we have the ecosystem integration we do think that API can be
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monetized and
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integration can be monetized so it's another pillar but we are breaking down to
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creative
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scoring for example the analysis of your creative you can start there you can
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see what's going
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on you can see best practices and then you mature towards connect the dot with
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my performance
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help me optimize to my brand my location and really tie things together because
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each brand
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has their own flavor and different type of taste and then the other thing is to
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offer
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for example for us to create optimize video for you so it's really like the
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journey towards
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land and expand and we need to and we're doing go to market motion around that
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and pricing
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and packaging and we even change the organizational structure on product
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engineering to be behind
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these pillars so we had like seven or eight different engineering product kind
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of tripod
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we call it groups and now we're kind of creating more consistent teams behind
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those product
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pillars so think about what should you do in your product should you break
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functionality
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to enable better cross-sell and upsell it will also help you with better land
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on boarding
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there's a lot of goodness with with launching this thing again like it's a lot
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of effort
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as well but there's a lot of goodness behind this and then also think about the
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better together
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for example so we kind of broke out the platform and services and if you think
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about in your
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perspective cut down those kind of key functionality and see where the synerg
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ies so you're not becoming
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a disparate set of products you have to build this better together because the
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data same
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way like you've seen Amazon Google cloud and Salesforce the data that you put
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in one system
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shows up in another and there's a lot of insights across the board so how do
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you for example
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connect that different pillars and again the goal is to support land and expand
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and have
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a mutual platform to allow that data to be available in all the other systems
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or modules
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that you're building.
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Also UX that's a new design still not implemented we're actually shifting and
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basically giving
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you a new homepage as you log into your to the platform you will see three
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pillars and
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we can even inject a try now so the vision is to really split the one big
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massive platform
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into slick great looking each module it's such an amazing view if you look at
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the left side
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suddenly we can understand the functionality we that's like a third imagine
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that you had like
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additional two thirds here and all the functionality how complex it is versus
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creating this new home
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page and when I click into one of the pillars I go there I focus on what I need
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to do and I can
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see and get exposed to additional services so thinking about PLG is about the
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land and expand
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and discoverability of features UX has a major play in it and this is what we
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are thinking with
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regards to how do I expose my end user not to think that I only have this basic
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functionality now
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how do I show expose them and how do I even expose the features to them and how
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do I manage my
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information architecture so that was an amazing exercise it's still in the
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midst of designing
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as we build this and but it's amazing to see how we really push for a PLG
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motion to support that
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it's anywhere from go-to-market messaging architecture UX to truly use our
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product as a vehicle to
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drive customer value and support land and but also more importantly the expand
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motion
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so basically we also use PX as well because you know data by itself is not
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enough we had to
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really map everything and understand usage but right now we want to make sure
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that we are really
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getting to focusing on the end user experience when you're launching new UI or
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you're changing
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your product one of the things you might do is upset existing customers and you
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have to move
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and be very proactive so using in-app contextual surveys for example to
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complement the usage data
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and saying okay this is the key workflows that we just change see that you know
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we actually do
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a good job is it missing anything what was the confusion area a lot of
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contextual question you
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can do right in the moment when the users are using the UI so we can quickly
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adopt fix and mature
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and GA the new user experience because again massive user experience and some
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you're breaking
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it into different pillars imagine that you have existing customer usually they
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hate changes
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you have to make sure then you have new customers that you need to satisfy and
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they might love the
39:05
new change but you have to really get that user feedback all the time so the
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product management
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team is on top of things and they're not hearing anecdotal feedback from
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customers you can be
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ahead of this curve and always get that continuous feedback loop on key
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functionality you just
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changed otherwise you know you're just like launching it and then they need to
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figure this out and then
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and then you're getting the feedback way too late in the game as product
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managers that contextual
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surveying a contextual engagement it's so it's so funny to sit on both sides
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both the person
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controlling those messages and engagement interaction also being something that
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's a consumer of quite
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a few softwares and also knowing when those messages pop up at just the right
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time versus
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totally the wrong time and fully appreciate your uh your comment on people
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users and current customers
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they'll always love all the changes even if they're for the better um I think
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we're running up on time
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here of four minutes to go um any last thoughts or hopping over to Q&A from the
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audience
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I think you know basically again like usage data is critical for us as well so
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now we are
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splitting the view to each pillar and each product manager owns their area and
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they need to drive
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adoption and see and be on top of those metrics so we want to understand stick
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iness we want to
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understand retention obviously these are leading indicators our no star as a
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product engineering
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team is to optimize the business KPIs customer acquisition cost growth revenue
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retention
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net dollar retention all these big KPIs eventually are tied to how well your
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product is delivering
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value and how often your customers are using it and is it meaningful
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interaction with your
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product so uh the exercise we're doing is mapping those valuable actions and
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see how often users use
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it looking how frequent are they in the system how many business days a week do
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they use it how
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many are coming back and then also what's the sentiment of key valuable
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activity they do with
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our system the daily activity for example if it's a daily product for it's a
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highly used product
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that core functionality has to be really smooth and we want to optimize all the
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time so
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having this um experience scoring the UX scoring based on these key workflows
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is where we uh we
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focus on and the product managers on this metric so if the leading indicator is
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going to get
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better and better we believe that the the lagging the business KPIs are going
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to be optimized
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because usually eventually all the the decisions and things that you're seeing
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on the financial
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metrics are really tied to your product experience in the end so if you want to
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as more you optimize
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and when you're building your roadmap having those KPIs are very powerful
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because can
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give a sense to the business why do you decide to invest in these areas where
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are the key
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gaps and to see that you're using really user data and real user feedback at
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scale
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really gets the trust from your cross-functional team that you know you're on
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top of things and
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you're kind of really ahead of the curve to understand what's going on and you
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're going to
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collaborate with your customer success and support in areas sometimes you know
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it's not as fast to
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change things in the product so you you need to partner with support and
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customer success and make
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it sure that you know they are able to see those friction points until you're
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releasing that as
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part of your next releases we also build a section of our customer love and
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insights that we picked
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up every month and we have a fast track to those quick wins to reduce ux
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friction there's a lot of
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small great enhancement you can do that makes customer super satisfied instead
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of launching very
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heavy features all the time so we always have a fixed bucket of customer love
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items that enhancing
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productivity for our customers with small enhancement to the user experience.
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Well awesome mate we're here right up against time but mike thank you so much
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for joining us
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it's always such a pleasure to have you join and impart your wisdom on everyone
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it's really cool to
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hear about what vidmab is doing I think video is becoming quickly like the most
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common medium
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for communication like personally professionally everything so super relevant
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there and you know
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I have some big learnings from today that I'm taking away how AI can boost your
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productivity as a
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product manager with PRDs that PLG is more this year of a continuous motion not
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just land but carving
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out one part of your product getting time to value that and then driving growth
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to the other areas of
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your product or other products and then also loved hearing how you're using px
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and that contextual
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in-app engagement and making that experience very good and very personalized
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for users so thank you
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so much and we'll look forward to seeing everybody else from the next series
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thank you for having me
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all right bye